/c/europe Posted by u/StarGazer_77 2 days ago

Macron says EU joint defense clause is 'stronger' than NATO one

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u/QuietReader42 2 days ago
Yeah, sure, Jan. Tell that to the Poles or Baltics.
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u/NightOwlDev 2 days ago
Honestly though, the actual clauses *are* worded differently. Article 42.7 TUE is much more explicit about 'all the means in their power' than NATO's Article 5, which is often interpreted as purely defensive within *their own* territory.
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u/code_monkey_x 1 days ago
Words on paper don't stop tanks. NATO has actual tanks, trained armies, and a common command structure. EU has a bunch of committees and some nice thoughts.
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u/mango_storm 2 days ago
It's all well and good until Germany decides its budget for defense is actually better spent on... whatever Germany decides to spend its money on. The *will* to act is what matters, not just the words on paper. NATO has an actual track record.
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u/PixelPioneer 2 days ago
So basically, France wants the EU to buy French arms instead of American? Got it.
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u/DataDrifter_01 2 days ago
Pretty much.
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u/SilverStreamer 2 days ago
Stronger clause, weaker commitment from some members who'd rather free-ride or veto everything. The EU needs real solidarity before it can project 'stronger' anything.
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